IBM 218 | Work Less and Make More by Hiring a Virtual Team, an Interview with Chris Ducker


Every entrepreneur reaches a crossroads at some point. The path you choose will either lift the ceiling on your growth and income or leave you limited by trying to do everything yourself.

In this episode, we talk with the world-leading expert in building virtual teams, Chris Ducker, so that you can work less and make more.

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In This Episode

  • Why NOT hiring a team is costing you money
  • The one critical first hire that every entrepreneur needs for their business
  • How to overcome the fear of hiring a team

Items of Interest

  • Virtual Freedom – Chris’ brand new book on building and managing virtual teams
  • Special thanks to Scott and Brendo for the open and close music on the episode

What do you think?

What other questions do you have about hiring and working with a virtual team?


  1. Love this episode…I’ll have to grab a copy of Virtual Freedom. In fact, I’m heading to the Philippines March 16th! I’ll be looking at getting a GVA.
    Chris, if possible, I’d love to buy you a drink or two and pick your brain a bit! I’m sure you’re busy, but had to at least try and catch you! lol


    Coach Pablo

  2. Hi Guys…love the podcast…I’m married to a S. AFrican and she uses the expression “Happy As Larry” a lot. And of course, it gets a big chuckle out of all of her Yank friends. :-)

    Keep up the great work!!

  3. I try to pull something useful out of each podcast I listen too. It’s not too hard to do. Right now I’m a volunteer for a national non-profit with a staff of volunteers spread across the country. Listening to your podcast with Chris I realized I already have virtual assistants with these volunteers. But something has always been missing.
    I’m going to read Chris’s book to learn more about managing VAs and pull strategies from there. I’l also going to look into a GVA to handle a lot to the day to day administrative work I do. Hopefully that will fee up more time to do the fun parts of my volunteer work.
    Thanks for the content.

  4. Allen,

    Excellent observation. The truth is that Chris’ book and expertise apply to any virtual team (even volunteers).

  5. Jeremy and Jason you know how much I have got from your podcasts and the academy. I’ve just listened to this episode again and I can’t let it go without commenting. Chris lists as a benefit of hiring a VA the fact that you can then fire them in a heartbeat with no comeback – that seems very exploitative to me. Did I misunderstand?

  6. Emma,

    This is certainly an area where there is what you CAN do and what you SHOULD do. It’s a matter of ethics. Everyone decides where they land on the spectrum of ethical behavior in business.

    I can’t really speak for Chris. However, from what I know about him, I think he would agree that it’s important to treat people fairly and not as a disposable resource.

    We have had to fire remote employees in the past, but only after we have communicated clear expectations, given them the needed resources to perform their job and an opportunity to do it to the best of their ability.

    Despite the “arm’s length” inherent to remote workers, it’s important not to forget that it is a human being on the other side who depends on making a living.

    • Totally agree, Jason.

      Emma – please don’t look into that comment too closely. Sometimes my tongue moves faster than it should in interviews! :-)

      What I meant here was that with a virtual employee you have the ability to cut ties with them without the usual due process (which is some countries means you could be stuck with someone you don’t want / need anymore, for several months – not advantageous for any business).

      Of course I’m a fair guy. Always have been, always will be.


  7. When hiring the first VA, coming from the “superhero entrepreneur”, one could either look for a “superhero VA” who can do all the tasks one already does, but i guess it is unlikely to happen.

    Several different VA could be hired for specific tasks (like WP posting, video editing, video transcription, newsletter writing, scheduling webinars), but then, one might have only small tasks to delegate to several VA.

    How would you manage several VA for several “small” tasks, until you have enough work for more hours, or find the “super VA” to do all the “superhero entrepreneur” would have been doing?

  8. Chris explains he has one of his VA’s do his Facebook posts because his time is too valuable and then quickly adds that he does not mean that his staffers are not valuable people. I understand the instinct that made him add this but I think we small-business entrepreneurs need to stop apologizing for delegating tasks to employees. Did Steve Jobs need to explain to people why he did not stand in the production line for the iPhone everyday? Every single iPhone ever made was made by outsourced workers in Asia. When I hear someone say they won’t hire an outsourced worker because of some moral/ideological reason I ask them if they own an iPhone. Because if they do, they have already employed an outsourced worker.